tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post1146277180827145577..comments2023-06-21T10:52:34.013-04:00Comments on Jeremy Rosen's Blog: Kill the MessengerAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17043970242427877089noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-67338311089858238152010-02-04T15:06:39.122-05:002010-02-04T15:06:39.122-05:00Sometimes - nay most-times - I do wonder why I wro...Sometimes - nay most-times - I do wonder why I wrote that,... but it frustrates me to have only parts of a jigsaw.. so I thank you R. R, for at least grasping the "spirit" in which I attempt to write.<br /><br />The little nation can only enjoy peace when the neighbours change their attitude...., and those neighbours have to see that the new kid on the block is maybe better than the old ones.<br /><br />Graham<br />who understands nothing of football and who has thus never needed a midday Thai massage<br /><br />wordcheck "glatin" well that's almost kosher innit?Grahamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-33478126619600072752010-02-03T19:45:45.281-05:002010-02-03T19:45:45.281-05:00Graham wrote:
>The little country has to survi...Graham wrote:<br /><br />>The little country has to survive - but walls always succumb...so beware those who might build a villa in a slum - <br /><br />Absolutely!Rabbi Jeremy Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723608669485173271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-73469492433946378152010-02-02T16:12:54.078-05:002010-02-02T16:12:54.078-05:00"And the numbers game is against Israel. Nego..."And the numbers game is against Israel. Negotiation in other words offers more long term hope than inertia"<br /><br />In other words -assimilation?<br /><br />Cheer up R.R.!<br />look on the bright side....<br />since 1948 paths can be chosen - rather than accepted through necessity... <br /><br />does the inertia come from one's chosen friends? or from a loss of perception of those, whom - once - a long time ago - might have seriously kicked ass - or bowed to an Imperial power which was rotten from the core?<br /><br />The little country has to survive - but walls always succumb...so beware those who might build a villa in a slum - <br /><br />BTW I object to "shagme" as word verification!Grahamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-45934530589164689392010-01-30T04:45:05.932-05:002010-01-30T04:45:05.932-05:00Dear Bananabrain,
I just read your "modest p...Dear Bananabrain,<br /><br />I just read your "modest proposal" blog. Flying unterhasen on sticks etc. sounds a wonderful idea and a lot less bloodthirsty than Swift's original.<br /><br />Good luck in your enterprise - I shall be reading Spittoon on a regular basis from now on.<br /><br />All the best and a gut woch to you and Jeremy,<br /><br />LeilaLeilanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-9978860860786969562010-01-25T11:22:21.543-05:002010-01-25T11:22:21.543-05:00bananabrain:
Yes, my dear friend, I did indeed re...bananabrain:<br /><br />Yes, my dear friend, I did indeed read your spittoon blog and your kind reference to me (and my recalcitrance!).<br /><br />I am glad your literary as well as your musical skills are finding free expression!<br /><br />Warmest regards<br />JeremyRabbi Jeremy Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723608669485173271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-21466977126209753982010-01-25T06:34:49.331-05:002010-01-25T06:34:49.331-05:00hi jeremy, long time no speak - i reblogged your h...hi jeremy, long time no speak - i reblogged your haaretz piece on the spittoon, where i blog now, working with a number of ex-fundamentalist muslims and other sensible people. http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4797<br /><br />you might also enjoy my piece on neturei karta (a subject which is cause for much confusion amongst muslims)<br /><br />http://www.spittoon.org/archives/2380<br /><br />and my piece about how to deal with the goons from al-muhajiroun.<br /><br />http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4566<br /><br />if you ever wish to guest-blog, that can be arranged without much difficulty.<br /><br />keep well and it'd be lovely to see you next time you're in london.<br /><br />b'shalom<br /><br />bananabrainbananabrainhttp://www.spittoon.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-6076140299460307662010-01-24T17:57:19.375-05:002010-01-24T17:57:19.375-05:00theedgeofwhere:
Sadly, the more you beat someone ...theedgeofwhere:<br /><br />Sadly, the more you beat someone up the less likely he will be to open up and be reasonable.<br /><br />And precisely because so much hatred, irrationality, and prejudice is directed towards Israel, it is natural to want to give up trying to concede anything and retreat behind a defensive position.<br /><br />It has happened to me. I take the virulent hatred very personally and my natural inclination is to respond by saying "F you too." But because I make a point of reading and hearing contrary views I do get the odd reality check.<br /><br />JRabbi Jeremy Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723608669485173271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-45839415756229594872010-01-24T17:55:42.435-05:002010-01-24T17:55:42.435-05:00Leila:
Sadly, you are right, in the face of preju...Leila:<br /><br />Sadly, you are right, in the face of prejudice and hatred there is nothing to be done.<br /><br />Why, for example, is there no outcry over Egypt refusing to open its borders to Gaza and building its "wall"? Or why have Palestinians in Lebanon never been given the vote?<br /><br />The Arab world acts far worse than Israel does towards its own.<br />But then two wrongs don't make a right and since when should we follow their morality rather than ours??<br /><br />JRabbi Jeremy Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723608669485173271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-90640231076850053322010-01-24T17:54:05.453-05:002010-01-24T17:54:05.453-05:00Yam Eretz:
Thank you, sir, but the sad fact is tha...Yam Eretz:<br />Thank you, sir, but the sad fact is that by and large most people no longer engage in debate and simply retreat behind safe walls and preconceived positions!<br />JRabbi Jeremy Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723608669485173271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-3953170048228506392010-01-24T17:53:15.567-05:002010-01-24T17:53:15.567-05:00robbyn:
You know it's like trying to argue wi...robbyn:<br /><br />You know it's like trying to argue with Haredi rabbis on the basis of a Biblical text. You won't win.<br />Similarly, to quote from the Koran when there are layers of Hadith and subsequent traditions just won't wash.<br /><br />Look at how Muslims themselves disagree about the Burqa.<br />Sure there will be liberal modern Muslims who talk a different language but for the vast majority of Muslims the Fertile Crescent is Muslim territory, regardless, and Israel is regarded as a Crusader invader.<br /><br />JeremyRabbi Jeremy Rosenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12723608669485173271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-78655759856792695472010-01-22T08:26:32.566-05:002010-01-22T08:26:32.566-05:00Are you aware that under Islamic law the Jews are ...Are you aware that under Islamic law the Jews are entitled to the land of Israel? Here is my source.<br /><br />http://www.scripturalreasoning.org.uk/limmud.html<br /><br />The Scriptural Reasoning Society is a family of Jewish, Christian and Muslim believers who meet together in groups around the UK to study their sacred texts together, in order to understand and respect religious differences, and challenge extremism and intolerance.<br /><br />Here is an excerpt from one of the papers you will find there:<br /><br />"...there are no grounds in religious law to entertain the conceit that God’s promise to the Children of Israel has been broken, and none to support the view that Israel is now the property of the Muslims..."robbynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18305748805746947191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-45099120791491904812010-01-22T05:26:31.569-05:002010-01-22T05:26:31.569-05:00What? No other comments? Yours is one of the most ...What? No other comments? Yours is one of the most articulate blogs out there. I talkbacked on your excellent Haaretz op-ed piece. Keep broadcasting your message. We need more rabbis like you.Yam Erezhttp://standbyyourname.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-25547747483403841852010-01-22T03:38:36.356-05:002010-01-22T03:38:36.356-05:00You're right, of course, Jeremy, and there are...You're right, of course, Jeremy, and there are two or more sides to every story, especially when it comes to Jews and Israel. Land for peace would be fair and it almost was until Yasser Arafat stepped away from it at the last moment but now, how do we deal with an unholy alliance government in Israel, a corrupt Palestinian entity and Hamas, Hezbollah, Iranians, Syrians etc?<br />To add to this little strudel of nasties, we are contending with the BBC and much other abuse aimed at Jews and Israel in the UK - it is depressing to see that, in the media, there is so rarely anything to be found which is favourable. We have even seen comments that Israelis working their kishkes out in Haiti are doing it only for publicity while everyone else who has gone to help is altruistic. Would it all change overnight if there was a peace deal?Leilanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6141014.post-69070701319720620842010-01-22T02:42:19.818-05:002010-01-22T02:42:19.818-05:00Jeremy thank you. You articulate brilliantly my ow...Jeremy thank you. You articulate brilliantly my own feelings on this issue. <br /><br /><i><b><br />A parent who exercises no correction is a bad parent. A friend who does not point out failings is a bad friend... I criticize because I love. Love that will not criticize is not true love.<br /></b></i><br /><br />I wonder: why do so many well meaning individuals see otherwise; assuming that their love for Israel makes it their duty to refute every criticism of Israel, however valid it may be?theedgeofwherehttp://theedgeofwhere.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com